Docker, It’s Just the Beginning

Dec 4th, 2014 1:47am by Alex Williams

I keep thinking of this important week for Docker when listening to this recording from OpenStack that we did in Paris last month at our WarmUp event.

#23: Docker, It’s Just the Beginning

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Lke OpenStack, this week’s DockerCon is a community event. Both OpenStack and DockerCon are reminders that confusion is customary in emerging technology markets and there will be efforts to divert thinking. We see that in almost any technology community. The container community is no different.

But Docker is as significant as any technology movement in the past 20 years. And it’s not just because of the Docker technology itself. It’s more about the larger significance of the container movement and how it will impact the new stack in its next evolution.

In terms of significance, I think of what HP’s new cloud chief, Marten Mickos, said at the WarmUp. He compared the original LAMP stack to the container movement. It was one thing to run a database on a LAMP stack but the real challenge arose when it became necessary to run 1,000 databases. Today, running a thousand containers may seem like a feat but soon there will be millions and billions of containers running across cloud services. The bottlenecks, the networking issues and all the other problems that come with scale have not yet been resolved.

This recording offers some insights from people like Bernard Golden of ActiveState who discusses Docker metaphors with Marten. Erica Windisch of Docker and Adrian Otto of Rackspace talk about the role Docker is playing in OpenStack. The recording concludes with an overview of Clocker by CloudSoft’s Duncan Johnson-Watt and a discussion with Billy Cox of Intel. We also hear questions from people like Ben Kepes, who asked Marten a good question about the role Docker will play in OpenStack. There are discussions about how Docker can run in Docker to work with OpenStack Nova.

Overall, the discussions exemplify the differences that come with containers compared to virtual machines. It again shows the confusion as well for how this new technology will be applied to workloads. Containers are on the rise but there are now competing factions, which is to be expected. That’s to be expected in any passionate community.

Rackspace, Intel, CloudSoft and ActiveState are sponsors of The New Stack.

Alex Williams is founder and publisher of The New Stack. He's a longtime technology journalist who did stints at TechCrunch, SiliconAngle and what is now known as ReadWrite. Alex has been a journalist since the late 1980s, starting at the...